New toy alert (Koday Zi6)! Trying to see how different formats look in YouTube. This one is also in HD w/ different titles:
Yes, this is HD, so it takes a while to download. You can then replay it without interruptions. About 25 seconds to initially download all of this 13-second video on my iMac at 1.2 MBps, for the record. Nice clear closeup!
UPDATE: There seems to be some disagreement over whether this is HD video. I’m new at this, so I could be wrong, but my info tells me this is 30fps video at 720p, which both the Zi6, iMovie, and YouTube call “HD.” All I know is that it’s really in good focus. The next one is at the next available setting in iMovie, one notch below HD:
Well, that one isn’t bad either, although it’s obviously not as sharp. Almost instant download, however, so except for special circumstances, that may be the format to use.
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Just FYI, I’d say it took 60-90 secs to download this 12 sec clip using my dandy 1.something (it ain’t 5) MB/sec Qwest DSL line.
J
Same DSL line, took MUCH less time than that for me on my new iMac. Changing the video now, however, still HD.
UPDATE: second version took approx. 28 seconds to completely download. Your mileage may vary (see above), but man do 4 GB of RAM and a fast processor help.
Took a few moments to download, but hardly worth the effort. The “video” I grabbed appears to be five still shot frames of about one second each, with a soundtrack of course. Not exactly HD video.
took about 2-3 seconds to load over 6MBps ATT DSL.
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(advantage of living in silicon valley
robbo: you must be having SERIOUS download/bandwidth issues or just basic hardware problems – it really is “video”: full 30fps HD. try again, or get better gear/faster connection.
Number 6 is right. I don’t know what you did, Robbo, but that’s 30fps at 720p, certainly not five stills!
I guess I’ve got issues. (I’m still seeing the same 5 stills)
The No 2 video actually moves (at lower rez) it really moves, like video.
Well, that is pretty weird! It absofreakinglutely is NOT five stills. I wonder what could be going on at your end?
robbo: what kind of os are you using? what video plug in/encoder?
maybe there’s some little system extension or some such you need to update (or some obscure preference setting that needs to be changed). also as john said having the hardware horsepower definitely helps – is your video card up to it?
quicktime/mac osx on my airbook works like a charm.
and btw john, that looks fantastic in fullscreen! more please!!
The mystery of Qwest and your server.
I tried downloading both versions of the movie early this morning. This time, using the same line and same computer, Bee Short took 19 seconds to load and Bee Short II was virtually instantaneous. So yesterday’s performance was probably either a server load or an ISP load issue.
I concur that robbo’s 5 stills is a local h/w or s/w issue. Robbo, are you up on Flash player version 10? Have you tried fiddling with the amount of memory it’s allowed to use? Is H/W acceleration enabled? All these settings are available when you right click the “youtube” screen.
J
Another geeky comment.
dslreports.com has a great set of tests for checking line speed and whether your OS is optimized.
For those of us tied to the hive by Qwest, the following might be the best test available. http://denver.speedtest.qwest.net/
J
I have another problem at the moment, getting the DHCP settings right on my Qwest DSL modem and the wireless router. Should have just one with DHCP “on,” right? But which one? For years I had BOTH! Shouldn’t have worked, but did. Now that I’ve done it “right,” I have problems.
Set the DHCP at the router, turn it off at the modem, and everything is fine for about a day or two, then it craps out. Set it at the modem, turn in OFF at the router, and everything works, sort of. Turned on the computer this a.m. and found everything offline. While I was puzzling this over, it all came back, miraculously.
Problem is, I can’t find the proper documentation for my gear, and each supplier (Buffalo AirStation, Qwest DSL modem) has instructions that call certain functions by different names. Quite the puzzle.
I have the same toy…I have not downloaded a video yet, but they do say that recording in one mode as opposed to the other affects the quality on the internet. The first bee video did not play well on my Mac laptop with Verizon FIOS. It takes a bit to download then the audio track comes on then the video plays herky jerky. The second one plays perfectly. when I have a free moment I am interested to see how the videos I have recorded download onto youtube….fun.
FYI update- I downloaded all the videos onto my laptop, on which I have quicktime for a player and the videos I recorded in HD mode do not play, (at least not well) the ones that I recorded in VGA played perfectly. Have not tried downloading directly onto youtube yet.
Thanks for your input, Rebecca!
All very interesting… the HD 30fps mode I recorded the first video in is obviously a much larger file and gives some people trouble. For YouTube purposes, I will keep recording in that mode but not choose it for uploading to YouTube. iMovie 08 allows for YouTube publishing as HD (1080 x 720) for highest quality and 940 x 540 (“large”) as the next best setting. That’s how Bee Short II was produced.
I see no reason (other than memory limits on the Zi6) for recording at anything less than HD 30fps. Uploading to YouTube via iMovie 08 at the 940 x 540 setting seems to produce a decent video. I don’t completely understand the automatic settings in iMovie — I used to do all this through QuickTime Pro, getting very esoteric with the manual settings — and it never seemed to work very well. The present combination is pretty decent.
As for the HD video not playing well on your laptop (MacBook? MacBook Pro?), I’d say that’s related to processor speed and RAM. More the latter, probably. My iMac runs at 3.06 GHz and has 4
MBGB of RAM. It exhibits absolutely no playback difficulties with the HD videos, either online or locally on my hard drive.Finally, YouTube’s Flash conversion always degrades what ends up on their servers. One of the other video hosting outfits (Vimeo?) might deliver better results, although I haven’t tried them yet.
extreme hardware horsepower isn’t all that necessary – my airbook is only 1.8 GHz & 2G ram and both vids loaded in a couple seconds and played perfectly fine – the only issue was the first HD one was ever so slightly jittery in fullscreen mode (barely noticeable), but that’s an issue i’ve encountered before with other online videos, and has to do with the modest Intel GMA video processor the airbook uses.
[side note - how time flies: we're now at a point where we talk in terms of "only" a 1.8GHz processor and "only" 2G ram!
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You’re right. I didn’t necessarily mean that it took what I have to view the videos, only that this was my baseline.
“Only” two gigs of RAM is right.
btw i didn’t notice until just now (gettin’ slow in my old age) but your comment refers to your imac as having 4 MEG ram instead of 4 GB (i doubt it could function at all with 4 MB ^_^ )
My hardware is hardly anemic; a G5 Dual running at 2 GHZ with 4 Gigs of RAM. Video card: ATI Radeon 9600. Cable Downstream throughput 17.6 Gbps
UPDATE: After updating Flash Player from Version 9 to Version 10 point something, the HD version of the embedded video still appears on my end as a series of 5 still images. HOWEVER: when I bypass the embedded video and view it directly from the YouTube page, everything worked fine. Eureka!