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		<title>By: JHF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JHF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris, great to see you here!

Yes, total agreement on all points. What Jungian analysis has taught me, additionally, is that  for me at least, the path to wholeness leads through real-time experience of buried pain. Taking the full impact now, as a grownup, washes so much away. In the case of the above post, just getting to know Nakul a little better drove home the emotional &lt;em&gt;massiveness&lt;/em&gt; of the abuse I suffered. I&#039;ve always known, intellectually, but it didn&#039;t really hurt. I&#039;d walled it off so it wouldn&#039;t, and in so doing also encapsulated the lies that caused the pain...

Since writing this post, I&#039;ve been on an extended high of sorts, in a real creative whirlwind, and I think I know why: the evil inner critic is gone, or at least went into hiding. It had to, because what hit me in the bathroom put the lie to any claim to legitmacy it had: the inner critic is a FUCKING NUTBALL PSYCHO SADIST!!! I don&#039;t have to listen any more, just like I don&#039;t have to answer every phone call. I have wanted this to be &quot;over&quot; for so goddamned long, but it wouldn&#039;t go away until I felt it. Stupid karma! No way do we ever get a refund.

This shit stops with me, not because I will it, but because the energy is &lt;em&gt;transmuted&lt;/em&gt;. Hah!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris, great to see you here!</p>
<p>Yes, total agreement on all points. What Jungian analysis has taught me, additionally, is that  for me at least, the path to wholeness leads through real-time experience of buried pain. Taking the full impact now, as a grownup, washes so much away. In the case of the above post, just getting to know Nakul a little better drove home the emotional <em>massiveness</em> of the abuse I suffered. I&#8217;ve always known, intellectually, but it didn&#8217;t really hurt. I&#8217;d walled it off so it wouldn&#8217;t, and in so doing also encapsulated the lies that caused the pain&#8230;</p>
<p>Since writing this post, I&#8217;ve been on an extended high of sorts, in a real creative whirlwind, and I think I know why: the evil inner critic is gone, or at least went into hiding. It had to, because what hit me in the bathroom put the lie to any claim to legitmacy it had: the inner critic is a FUCKING NUTBALL PSYCHO SADIST!!! I don&#8217;t have to listen any more, just like I don&#8217;t have to answer every phone call. I have wanted this to be &#8220;over&#8221; for so goddamned long, but it wouldn&#8217;t go away until I felt it. Stupid karma! No way do we ever get a refund.</p>
<p>This shit stops with me, not because I will it, but because the energy is <em>transmuted</em>. Hah!</p>
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		<title>By: cjs</title>
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		<dc:creator>cjs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. This is a heart-breaker: to think (at &lt;i&gt;whatever&lt;/i&gt; age) &quot;Holy shit, it&#039;s too late for me to do X or Y or Z!&quot; For me personally, it&#039;s every time I hear a Hindustani musician, and think to myself, &quot;the only way I would ever have been able to play that music would be if I had started at age 6 and kept on &#039;til the present. I&#039;m never going to play that music in this life.&quot;

I empathize and sympathize with your personal history, too: denial of talent, squelching of opportunity, parental dysfunction, the whole sorry mess, is in my background too. 

Something that has helped me is an insight from (very many years!) of therapy, in groups with people whose personal histories were far more damaging than ever happened to me. I would be listening to some horrific story of abuse, and awestruck that the victim was sitting there in front of us, grappling with that history, and that I was hearing them say, essentially, 

&quot;I can&#039;t undo what was done to me. But I &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; make sure it &lt;b&gt;fucking stops with me&lt;/b&gt;.&quot;

I learned from those people, to begin to apply the same lesson to my own life history. Whatever was done to us, whatever resentments and regrets we are doomed to carry to the grave, we can begin to say &quot;the shit stops with me.&quot; We can make the choice to heal, and to put good energy out into the world.

And if the youngsters, the ones who come after us, the ones who (because of our own resolution not to replicate the shit) reach the kind of artistic completion that we can&#039;t, because of age or damage, then at least we are putting good energy out into the world.

And we can&#039;t ever know upon what distant shores the ripples of that good energy will be felt.

Peace, brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. This is a heart-breaker: to think (at <i>whatever</i> age) &#8220;Holy shit, it&#8217;s too late for me to do X or Y or Z!&#8221; For me personally, it&#8217;s every time I hear a Hindustani musician, and think to myself, &#8220;the only way I would ever have been able to play that music would be if I had started at age 6 and kept on &#8217;til the present. I&#8217;m never going to play that music in this life.&#8221;</p>
<p>I empathize and sympathize with your personal history, too: denial of talent, squelching of opportunity, parental dysfunction, the whole sorry mess, is in my background too. </p>
<p>Something that has helped me is an insight from (very many years!) of therapy, in groups with people whose personal histories were far more damaging than ever happened to me. I would be listening to some horrific story of abuse, and awestruck that the victim was sitting there in front of us, grappling with that history, and that I was hearing them say, essentially, </p>
<p>&#8220;I can&#8217;t undo what was done to me. But I <i>can</i> make sure it <b>fucking stops with me</b>.&#8221;</p>
<p>I learned from those people, to begin to apply the same lesson to my own life history. Whatever was done to us, whatever resentments and regrets we are doomed to carry to the grave, we can begin to say &#8220;the shit stops with me.&#8221; We can make the choice to heal, and to put good energy out into the world.</p>
<p>And if the youngsters, the ones who come after us, the ones who (because of our own resolution not to replicate the shit) reach the kind of artistic completion that we can&#8217;t, because of age or damage, then at least we are putting good energy out into the world.</p>
<p>And we can&#8217;t ever know upon what distant shores the ripples of that good energy will be felt.</p>
<p>Peace, brother.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ingham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Ingham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to say this about your last sentence.....
&quot;RIGHT FUCKING ON&quot; John!!

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to say this about your last sentence&#8230;..<br />
&#8220;RIGHT FUCKING ON&#8221; John!!</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Kreeee-gah!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kreeee-gah!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] latest trip to the underworld has released an enormous amount of energy, which must explain why I&#8217;m still awake after going [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JHF</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no, no, not too late! :-) No worries. All love comes from the same source, decent parents just make it easier to plug into. Survivors like me have to find the outlet, over and over again. Just part of the ride. This is actually a GREAT background for any kind of artist, of course. There&#039;s an interesting comment thread on this over at FaceBook, BTW, where I can&#039;t seem to train people to come &lt;em&gt;here&lt;/em&gt; and comment. Aarghh.

You&#039;re also right about the backside of &quot;old.&quot; Jungian analysts don&#039;t generally even like to mess with people who aren&#039;t at least in their 50s. The ruts have to be deep enough to really feel them!

(And Nakul, if you&#039;re reading this, don&#039;t worry a bit. I&#039;m fine. It&#039;s just that getting to know you better has helped me to understand myself a little more. Just get out there and have a freaking BLAST!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no, no, not too late! <img src='http://www.farrfeed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  No worries. All love comes from the same source, decent parents just make it easier to plug into. Survivors like me have to find the outlet, over and over again. Just part of the ride. This is actually a GREAT background for any kind of artist, of course. There&#8217;s an interesting comment thread on this over at FaceBook, BTW, where I can&#8217;t seem to train people to come <em>here</em> and comment. Aarghh.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re also right about the backside of &#8220;old.&#8221; Jungian analysts don&#8217;t generally even like to mess with people who aren&#8217;t at least in their 50s. The ruts have to be deep enough to really feel them!</p>
<p>(And Nakul, if you&#8217;re reading this, don&#8217;t worry a bit. I&#8217;m fine. It&#8217;s just that getting to know you better has helped me to understand myself a little more. Just get out there and have a freaking BLAST!)</p>
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		<title>By: KarenK</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, I’m so sorry for the pain afforded by your journey of self-discovery. I’m sorry you feel it’s too late to be helped. But maybe you can take all of your hard-earned wisdom and scars and become the helper. Provide the mentoring support for some unfortunate younger person that your father never gave to you. You’ve seen firsthand how parents can cripple their unfortunate progeny — either through ignorance or by retaliating against their own unnamed demons. Maybe you could approach and conquer your demons from the other side of the equation. (Man, this sounds preachy. I don’t mean it that way.) Yes, it may be too late to be the nurtured child. But decidedly not too late to turn the tables and nurture one. Make up for the sins of your father. That will show him! You have to be OLD to do that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I’m so sorry for the pain afforded by your journey of self-discovery. I’m sorry you feel it’s too late to be helped. But maybe you can take all of your hard-earned wisdom and scars and become the helper. Provide the mentoring support for some unfortunate younger person that your father never gave to you. You’ve seen firsthand how parents can cripple their unfortunate progeny — either through ignorance or by retaliating against their own unnamed demons. Maybe you could approach and conquer your demons from the other side of the equation. (Man, this sounds preachy. I don’t mean it that way.) Yes, it may be too late to be the nurtured child. But decidedly not too late to turn the tables and nurture one. Make up for the sins of your father. That will show him! You have to be OLD to do that!</p>
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