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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just a note: the  unbirthcontrol pill;  one would assume that on this alternate plane, all women would have access to it whenever we chose.  Perhaps they grow on trees...just a thought, as my human body still prepares every month, for the one child I had 24 years ago...seems an inefficient system.  And when I run into Mother Nature I will surely ask about it.

Gee,  I guess that flies in the face of religious dogma claiming conception and birth to be a &quot;God&quot; only choice, that must be governed by and legislated by, ah, man?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just a note: the  unbirthcontrol pill;  one would assume that on this alternate plane, all women would have access to it whenever we chose.  Perhaps they grow on trees&#8230;just a thought, as my human body still prepares every month, for the one child I had 24 years ago&#8230;seems an inefficient system.  And when I run into Mother Nature I will surely ask about it.</p>
<p>Gee,  I guess that flies in the face of religious dogma claiming conception and birth to be a &#8220;God&#8221; only choice, that must be governed by and legislated by, ah, man?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are Lies, Damned Lies, and then Statistics! I always ask my wife: &quot;What is your source?&quot; Most times it is her hairdresser, the internet, TV, or a congressman!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are Lies, Damned Lies, and then Statistics! I always ask my wife: &#8220;What is your source?&#8221; Most times it is her hairdresser, the internet, TV, or a congressman!</p>
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		<title>By: Number 6</title>
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		<dc:creator>Number 6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by coincidence (?) i was reading negative reviews of that Star Trek reboot that came out this year, and everyone&#039;s biggest complaint was that it just wasn&#039;t &quot;Star Trek&quot; - no idealism or dealing with deep concepts at all, just a lot of the usual mindless slam-bang shoot-&#039;em-up; basically it&#039;s just Star Wars redressed in Star Trek clothes (with product placement - that&#039;s right, there are actually Nokia and Budweiser logos - in Star Trek!!!).

and speaking of thoughts creating the world, check this out: recently a number of porpoises have been washing up badly injured or dead, and they finally figured out what was happening to them: roving bands of young male dolphins were ganging up on the porpoises and beating them to death! i shit you not!!! our collective anger has managed to seep into another intelligent species! everything is connected......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by coincidence (?) i was reading negative reviews of that Star Trek reboot that came out this year, and everyone&#8217;s biggest complaint was that it just wasn&#8217;t &#8220;Star Trek&#8221; &#8211; no idealism or dealing with deep concepts at all, just a lot of the usual mindless slam-bang shoot-&#8217;em-up; basically it&#8217;s just Star Wars redressed in Star Trek clothes (with product placement &#8211; that&#8217;s right, there are actually Nokia and Budweiser logos &#8211; in Star Trek!!!).</p>
<p>and speaking of thoughts creating the world, check this out: recently a number of porpoises have been washing up badly injured or dead, and they finally figured out what was happening to them: roving bands of young male dolphins were ganging up on the porpoises and beating them to death! i shit you not!!! our collective anger has managed to seep into another intelligent species! everything is connected&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JHF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JHF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Science fiction ain&#039;t a bad idea. I was reading somewhere today that part of what ails the world is that there&#039;s no utopian writing. Everything is &lt;em&gt;dystopian&lt;/em&gt;, in fact. Maybe people just don&#039;t realize that our thoughts create the world. I barely do, and I&#039;ve been working at this for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science fiction ain&#8217;t a bad idea. I was reading somewhere today that part of what ails the world is that there&#8217;s no utopian writing. Everything is <em>dystopian</em>, in fact. Maybe people just don&#8217;t realize that our thoughts create the world. I barely do, and I&#8217;ve been working at this for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Number 6</title>
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		<dc:creator>Number 6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, as long as you&#039;re the one in control ;-)

on a side note, rebecca&#039;s notion of an &quot;unbirthcontrol pill&quot; is interesting - seems like a good idea, if we lived in some kind of utopian Star Trek future, but on the other hand it also sounds like something out of dystopian science fiction like &quot;Brave New World&quot; or &quot;THX 1138&quot; or &quot;Gattaca&quot;- if there were such a pill, who would control it? who would (or wouldn&#039;t) have access to it? brings up a whole potential for examining the implications of eugenics as well as population control in general.

maybe you should try your hand at writing some science fiction....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, as long as you&#8217;re the one in control <img src='http://www.farrfeed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>on a side note, rebecca&#8217;s notion of an &#8220;unbirthcontrol pill&#8221; is interesting &#8211; seems like a good idea, if we lived in some kind of utopian Star Trek future, but on the other hand it also sounds like something out of dystopian science fiction like &#8220;Brave New World&#8221; or &#8220;THX 1138&#8243; or &#8220;Gattaca&#8221;- if there were such a pill, who would control it? who would (or wouldn&#8217;t) have access to it? brings up a whole potential for examining the implications of eugenics as well as population control in general.</p>
<p>maybe you should try your hand at writing some science fiction&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: JHF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JHF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all right, Number 6. :-) This is different. 

I&#039;ve made some progress. It was killing me before because I took on the &quot;victim&quot; role. Emotionally,  political forces are just like the bad father/bad mother energies in the psyche. But I&#039;m coming into my own now, which means I can tell the bad guys to go to hell without losing my bearings. The trick is to avoid direct personal attacks, or twisting the knife, which is how I was unfortunately trained. By not projecting and directing personal darkness at the opponent, whoever disagrees with me has to be &quot;nice.&quot; Pyschological judo!

(Joseph has helped some. I wonder if he knows that?)

Zappa was right, but even so, the thing is, I can&#039;t &lt;em&gt;avoid&lt;/em&gt; the world or withdraw completely from it because we&#039;re ruled by idiots. I&#039;ve wrestled with that for years. It&#039;s not either/or, it&#039;s BOTH! Not into slugging it out, in other words, but we have to speak up once in a while. What if I were the only person on earth to perfectly formulate a certain thought, the one thought that could change the world?

If I start feeling bad again, I&#039;ll kill it, though. Some days I want to delete every single post and start completely over! But I think it&#039;s best to charge ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all right, Number 6. <img src='http://www.farrfeed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  This is different. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve made some progress. It was killing me before because I took on the &#8220;victim&#8221; role. Emotionally,  political forces are just like the bad father/bad mother energies in the psyche. But I&#8217;m coming into my own now, which means I can tell the bad guys to go to hell without losing my bearings. The trick is to avoid direct personal attacks, or twisting the knife, which is how I was unfortunately trained. By not projecting and directing personal darkness at the opponent, whoever disagrees with me has to be &#8220;nice.&#8221; Pyschological judo!</p>
<p>(Joseph has helped some. I wonder if he knows that?)</p>
<p>Zappa was right, but even so, the thing is, I can&#8217;t <em>avoid</em> the world or withdraw completely from it because we&#8217;re ruled by idiots. I&#8217;ve wrestled with that for years. It&#8217;s not either/or, it&#8217;s BOTH! Not into slugging it out, in other words, but we have to speak up once in a while. What if I were the only person on earth to perfectly formulate a certain thought, the one thought that could change the world?</p>
<p>If I start feeling bad again, I&#8217;ll kill it, though. Some days I want to delete every single post and start completely over! But I think it&#8217;s best to charge ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Number 6</title>
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		<dc:creator>Number 6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JOHN!!! delete this entire post! you&#039;re getting lost in the hedge maze again - stop letting yourself get worked up over the same short term stupidity that&#039;s been going on for thousands of years and will doubtless continue until our species either evolves into pure energy or goes extinct (guess which one is more likely ^_^ ). Frank Zappa once said &quot;Human Stupidity is a more common element in the universe than hydrogen, and has a longer shelf life.&quot;
this is all just polishing the brass on the Titanic. don&#039;t let yourself get so worked up and dragged down to such a narrow focus (and STOP READING THOSE BLOGS!!!! i remember a while back you once were so proud of the fact that you deleted all of your political bookmarks because it was bringing you down so much. like a hardcore alcoholic or junkie, you can&#039;t &quot;just have one&quot;).
i&#039;m only trying to remind you about what you so often talk about yourself: what&#039;s REALLY important in life. and it is definitely NOT wasting time fuming over transitory political this-or-that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JOHN!!! delete this entire post! you&#8217;re getting lost in the hedge maze again &#8211; stop letting yourself get worked up over the same short term stupidity that&#8217;s been going on for thousands of years and will doubtless continue until our species either evolves into pure energy or goes extinct (guess which one is more likely ^_^ ). Frank Zappa once said &#8220;Human Stupidity is a more common element in the universe than hydrogen, and has a longer shelf life.&#8221;<br />
this is all just polishing the brass on the Titanic. don&#8217;t let yourself get so worked up and dragged down to such a narrow focus (and STOP READING THOSE BLOGS!!!! i remember a while back you once were so proud of the fact that you deleted all of your political bookmarks because it was bringing you down so much. like a hardcore alcoholic or junkie, you can&#8217;t &#8220;just have one&#8221;).<br />
i&#8217;m only trying to remind you about what you so often talk about yourself: what&#8217;s REALLY important in life. and it is definitely NOT wasting time fuming over transitory political this-or-that.</p>
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		<title>By: JHF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JHF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this bill would eliminate those 45,000 deaths per year, I might go softer on it. But I don&#039;t see that. And how do you calculate the human misery and related deaths from family bankruptcy and psychological distress caused by skyrocketing medical costs, even if people &lt;em&gt;have&lt;/em&gt; insurance? I&#039;ll bet it&#039;s a lot higher than 45K, though. Premium increases are baked-in with the new bill, too. Wait until the under-40 crowd gets a load of what this does to them. 

The insurance companies are the problem. This bill makes them richer than they&#039;d imagined in their wildest dreams. That just isn&#039;t right.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this bill would eliminate those 45,000 deaths per year, I might go softer on it. But I don&#8217;t see that. And how do you calculate the human misery and related deaths from family bankruptcy and psychological distress caused by skyrocketing medical costs, even if people <em>have</em> insurance? I&#8217;ll bet it&#8217;s a lot higher than 45K, though. Premium increases are baked-in with the new bill, too. Wait until the under-40 crowd gets a load of what this does to them. </p>
<p>The insurance companies are the problem. This bill makes them richer than they&#8217;d imagined in their wildest dreams. That just isn&#8217;t right.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what are the stats on people who are on assistance and die from self abuse with taxpayer funded medical care?  I agree that there needs to be a whole lot of shaking going on but backwards sucks.  It&#039;s not enough to  slather on some political lotion to smooth away the appearance of wrinkles...I would happily pay a lot more tax for the ability of those I love, and those I don&#039;t love so much, to have access to good solid health CARE.   Shake it up baby....  I would actually give up social security (I have no intention of retiring) so others could benefit from what I pay into the system but I want a system that works.  Show me what works and I&#039;m there.  Who am I kidding? we know a lot of what works, we just aren&#039;t willing to go there.  We as a public can&#039;t lay all the blame at the politico&#039;s feet.  We are all part of the problem until we are all part of the solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what are the stats on people who are on assistance and die from self abuse with taxpayer funded medical care?  I agree that there needs to be a whole lot of shaking going on but backwards sucks.  It&#8217;s not enough to  slather on some political lotion to smooth away the appearance of wrinkles&#8230;I would happily pay a lot more tax for the ability of those I love, and those I don&#8217;t love so much, to have access to good solid health CARE.   Shake it up baby&#8230;.  I would actually give up social security (I have no intention of retiring) so others could benefit from what I pay into the system but I want a system that works.  Show me what works and I&#8217;m there.  Who am I kidding? we know a lot of what works, we just aren&#8217;t willing to go there.  We as a public can&#8217;t lay all the blame at the politico&#8217;s feet.  We are all part of the problem until we are all part of the solution.</p>
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